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	<title>Comments on: Intel Macs, OpenLaszlo 3.2, and fast fastness</title>
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		<title>By: jbardi</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-7075</link>
		<dc:creator>jbardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jgrandy - um, yes.  Check benchmarks on more than jvm and gcc.  The core duo out beats the G5 (even dual chip scenario) in nearly every aspect.  Its simply more efficient and runs a heck of a lot cooler... a problem IBM just could never manage to correct.  I admit, the dual core G5's are nice, but try and find that speed in a portable like the MacBook without going Intel.  Ahh yes, coding on openlaszlo in blazing speeds while going 75 MPH down the Interstate (as a passenger of course) on a MacBook Pro.. imagine.. two core duos or a single quad duo intel.. right around the corner.  I don't think you can cram your G5 with portable generator in your car very comfortably.  Besides, the heat on the Interstate would reak havoc on that overbearing G5 anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jgrandy - um, yes.  Check benchmarks on more than jvm and gcc.  The core duo out beats the G5 (even dual chip scenario) in nearly every aspect.  Its simply more efficient and runs a heck of a lot cooler&#8230; a problem IBM just could never manage to correct.  I admit, the dual core G5&#8217;s are nice, but try and find that speed in a portable like the MacBook without going Intel.  Ahh yes, coding on openlaszlo in blazing speeds while going 75 MPH down the Interstate (as a passenger of course) on a MacBook Pro.. imagine.. two core duos or a single quad duo intel.. right around the corner.  I don&#8217;t think you can cram your G5 with portable generator in your car very comfortably.  Besides, the heat on the Interstate would reak havoc on that overbearing G5 anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-6137</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Jeff - look for an announcement soon on DHTML. We're readying a "technology snapshot" that has most of our ducks in a row so that we can share development tasks with the contributor community. The first release that is robust enough for application development won't be available until later in the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Jeff - look for an announcement soon on DHTML. We&#8217;re readying a &#8220;technology snapshot&#8221; that has most of our ducks in a row so that we can share development tasks with the contributor community. The first release that is robust enough for application development won&#8217;t be available until later in the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-6136</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - um, no. The more likely answer is that Intel/Sun have put many more man-years of effort into optimizing the JVM and the Java JIT compiler for x86 than have IBM/Motorola/Sun for the PPC.

Another example of this is the relative performance of the x86 and PPC gcc backends. Similar clock speeds, similar bus speed, similar disk throughput and RAM bandwidth. x86 gcc is just much faster than PPC. Again, many more man-years of optimization.

One of the benefits of 85% market share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris - um, no. The more likely answer is that Intel/Sun have put many more man-years of effort into optimizing the JVM and the Java JIT compiler for x86 than have IBM/Motorola/Sun for the PPC.</p>
<p>Another example of this is the relative performance of the x86 and PPC gcc backends. Similar clock speeds, similar bus speed, similar disk throughput and RAM bandwidth. x86 gcc is just much faster than PPC. Again, many more man-years of optimization.</p>
<p>One of the benefits of 85% market share.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-6135</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically Intel x86 chips are faster than PPC chips of the same clock speed. A big, resounding "duh" comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically Intel x86 chips are faster than PPC chips of the same clock speed. A big, resounding &#8220;duh&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now my first comment has gone missing.  Basically I asked what you internal builds compiling to a DHTML target had and when we could expect the DHTML version of LZX to hit the streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now my first comment has gone missing.  Basically I asked what you internal builds compiling to a DHTML target had and when we could expect the DHTML version of LZX to hit the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: gse</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>gse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm... not sure what's up with that, Jeff.  We'll look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230; not sure what&#8217;s up with that, Jeff.  We&#8217;ll look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, when submitting the above comment, I got shot off to a sparse page that wanted me to enter a captcha code.  Unfortunately, all that was there was the phrase "captcha_img" so there may be something wrong with your captcha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, when submitting the above comment, I got shot off to a sparse page that wanted me to enter a captcha code.  Unfortunately, all that was there was the phrase &#8220;captcha_img&#8221; so there may be something wrong with your captcha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/03/intel-macs-openlaszlo-32-and-fast-fastness/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.  What version of swf was that for?

Also, can you share any figures on how fast the current speed is when compiling to the DHTML target?  I realize that the DHTML capabilities are not available to the layman yet, so if you could shed some light on when a preview version of this capability would be available, that would rock also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  What version of swf was that for?</p>
<p>Also, can you share any figures on how fast the current speed is when compiling to the DHTML target?  I realize that the DHTML capabilities are not available to the layman yet, so if you could shed some light on when a preview version of this capability would be available, that would rock also.</p>
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