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	<description>asynchronous javascript since before it was cool</description>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-7632</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the tags got swallowed there. In English, you want a script block (e.g. script XML element) containing the code in my comment above. So, taking a guess at how Wordpress handles formatting:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the tags got swallowed there. In English, you want a script block (e.g. script XML element) containing the code in my comment above. So, taking a guess at how Wordpress handles formatting:</p>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-7619</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

We just this week discovered an anomaly, where the Flash Player will default to lower-quality rendering in certain situations. This condition is triggered in OpenLaszlo if you include a splash screen in your application. We'll be blogging or writing about this soon, but in the mean time you can try the following workaround to see if it makes a difference. Simply add the following code to your application, either within a canvas or a library tag.

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>We just this week discovered an anomaly, where the Flash Player will default to lower-quality rendering in certain situations. This condition is triggered in OpenLaszlo if you include a splash screen in your application. We&#8217;ll be blogging or writing about this soon, but in the mean time you can try the following workaround to see if it makes a difference. Simply add the following code to your application, either within a canvas or a library tag.</p>
<p> _root._quality = &#8220;BEST&#8221;;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Feldman</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-7618</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll put together an example and contact you directly regarding the image rendering. As to ActionScript, I'd love to see someone write a quick primer on using ActionScript from within OL - I've known it was possible for a while but how the AS relates to the LZX and JavaScript is unclear, and certainly it can be useful from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll put together an example and contact you directly regarding the image rendering. As to ActionScript, I&#8217;d love to see someone write a quick primer on using ActionScript from within OL - I&#8217;ve known it was possible for a while but how the AS relates to the LZX and JavaScript is unclear, and certainly it can be useful from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-7536</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

You are probably right that our font embedding story is a bit more complex than that available through Adobe's Flash IDE. But I'm skeptical about the claim that image rendering is inferior, since we just pass raster image data directly to the Flash runtime. Of course, it's possible there's still a difference -- perhaps we don't turn on a feature on the Flash8 runtime that the Flash IDE does -- but if so we'd love to see a screenshot and sample code so that we can narrow down the problem. (Please contact me directly, jgrandy at openlaszlo dot org, if you can provide more information.)

As for drop shadows and so on, I believe there are OpenLaszlo developers who have used motion blur and other Flash 8 effects within OpenLaszlo apps, so I know it is possible. We haven't integrated effects into public OL APIs, though, so doing so requires dropping into ActionScript (not a big deal, but not well documented either). But we're open source, and would welcome anyone who would like to help make this feature happen sooner rather than later.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You are probably right that our font embedding story is a bit more complex than that available through Adobe&#8217;s Flash IDE. But I&#8217;m skeptical about the claim that image rendering is inferior, since we just pass raster image data directly to the Flash runtime. Of course, it&#8217;s possible there&#8217;s still a difference &#8212; perhaps we don&#8217;t turn on a feature on the Flash8 runtime that the Flash IDE does &#8212; but if so we&#8217;d love to see a screenshot and sample code so that we can narrow down the problem. (Please contact me directly, jgrandy at openlaszlo dot org, if you can provide more information.)</p>
<p>As for drop shadows and so on, I believe there are OpenLaszlo developers who have used motion blur and other Flash 8 effects within OpenLaszlo apps, so I know it is possible. We haven&#8217;t integrated effects into public OL APIs, though, so doing so requires dropping into ActionScript (not a big deal, but not well documented either). But we&#8217;re open source, and would welcome anyone who would like to help make this feature happen sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Feldman</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-7532</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jgrandy,
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. OL3.x's rendering of PNGs and other raster images is, for lack of a better term, less precise than Flex's. If you display the same image using OpenLaszlo, Flex, and directly in the browser you'll see that Flex's version is very close (though not necessarily identical, I think) to the original, while OpenLaszlo's is a bit further off.

Particularly for mockup purposes, there are also some issues around fonts: at least for a Mac user, the process of embedding any available font in a Flex app is relatively straightforward if you have Flash Pro. Doing it in OpenLaszlo is more complex and not something I've managed to do yet except with an existing ttf file.

I'll also be excited to be able to take advantage of the Flash 8+ filters like Drop Shadow from OL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jgrandy,<br />
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. OL3.x&#8217;s rendering of PNGs and other raster images is, for lack of a better term, less precise than Flex&#8217;s. If you display the same image using OpenLaszlo, Flex, and directly in the browser you&#8217;ll see that Flex&#8217;s version is very close (though not necessarily identical, I think) to the original, while OpenLaszlo&#8217;s is a bit further off.</p>
<p>Particularly for mockup purposes, there are also some issues around fonts: at least for a Mac user, the process of embedding any available font in a Flex app is relatively straightforward if you have Flash Pro. Doing it in OpenLaszlo is more complex and not something I&#8217;ve managed to do yet except with an existing ttf file.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also be excited to be able to take advantage of the Flash 8+ filters like Drop Shadow from OL.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-6752</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I revisited ZK ... "AJAX without Javascript" (http://zk1.sourceforge.net/) ... I can't help thinking there's an overlap in here that could be explored productively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I revisited ZK &#8230; &#8220;AJAX without Javascript&#8221; (http://zk1.sourceforge.net/) &#8230; I can&#8217;t help thinking there&#8217;s an overlap in here that could be explored productively.</p>
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		<title>By: jgrandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-6400</link>
		<dc:creator>jgrandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

I'd wait a few more months -- the high-level UI widgets aren't yet available in DHTML.

Can you expand on what limitations you see in OL3.x for raster image rendering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d wait a few more months &#8212; the high-level UI widgets aren&#8217;t yet available in DHTML.</p>
<p>Can you expand on what limitations you see in OL3.x for raster image rendering?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Feldman</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-6398</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been excited about Legals since I heard about it as a possible platform on which to build interactive application UI mockups. (OpenLaszlo 3.x isn't ideal for this purpose because of limitations in its rendering of raster images, but I imagine that there is no "rendering" in the DHTML runtime and perhaps better support in the Flash 9 one.)

Is this prerelease complete enough to use for this purpose, or should I be waiting a few more months?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been excited about Legals since I heard about it as a possible platform on which to build interactive application UI mockups. (OpenLaszlo 3.x isn&#8217;t ideal for this purpose because of limitations in its rendering of raster images, but I imagine that there is no &#8220;rendering&#8221; in the DHTML runtime and perhaps better support in the Flash 9 one.)</p>
<p>Is this prerelease complete enough to use for this purpose, or should I be waiting a few more months?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Tierney</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-6391</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very cool - haven't tinkered since 3.0- looking forward to see the DHTML it generates. one headsup- your link to the laszlo product page is broken (missing the .org)

sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very cool - haven&#8217;t tinkered since 3.0- looking forward to see the DHTML it generates. one headsup- your link to the laszlo product page is broken (missing the .org)</p>
<p>sean</p>
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		<title>By: John Sundman</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2006/06/introducing-legals/#comment-6384</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sundman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Footnote:

Here is how I remember the derivation of the project name "legals" (since several have asked in other places): Jim and the west coast members of the OpenLaszlo team had come to Cambridge, MA to meet with the east-coast members of the team for a 1-day architectural status meeting.

In the morning, the decision before us was whether to put efforts into supporting Flash 9 or DHTML. There were strong opinions on both sides.  We took a break for lunch, at the Legal Seafoods Restaruant near Harvard Square.  The lunch, originally budgeted for 1 hour, ended up taking 3 hours, and during that time the decision was made: "What the hell.  Let's do both."

Jim Grandy suggested the project name "legals" in honor of the luncheon at which this decision was made.

Other participants at the lunch that day may remember things slightly differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Footnote:</p>
<p>Here is how I remember the derivation of the project name &#8220;legals&#8221; (since several have asked in other places): Jim and the west coast members of the OpenLaszlo team had come to Cambridge, MA to meet with the east-coast members of the team for a 1-day architectural status meeting.</p>
<p>In the morning, the decision before us was whether to put efforts into supporting Flash 9 or DHTML. There were strong opinions on both sides.  We took a break for lunch, at the Legal Seafoods Restaruant near Harvard Square.  The lunch, originally budgeted for 1 hour, ended up taking 3 hours, and during that time the decision was made: &#8220;What the hell.  Let&#8217;s do both.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jim Grandy suggested the project name &#8220;legals&#8221; in honor of the luncheon at which this decision was made.</p>
<p>Other participants at the lunch that day may remember things slightly differently.</p>
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