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	<title>Comments on: Rich Chumby Application?</title>
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	<description>asynchronous javascript since before it was cool</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2007/01/rich-chumby-application/#comment-65970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenLaszlo Rules!!

OpenLaszlo+Chumby needs to happen.  It would be unbelievably cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenLaszlo Rules!!</p>
<p>OpenLaszlo+Chumby needs to happen.  It would be unbelievably cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Grandy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2007/01/rich-chumby-application/#comment-20503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Grandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,

We looked into it, and there's one known blocking issue currently. All versions of OpenLaszlo currently write to _root, so they probably (*) cannot be sub-loaded within an existing Flash movie clip. Chumby subloads content, so OpenLaszlo-generated swfs do not currently load within Chumby.

There are two avenues of exploration here. First is to verify whether Chumby is calling lockroot() before subloading content; this not, adding this call *may* make it possible to load OpenLaszlo apps on the Chumby.

The second approach is to modify OpenLaszlo to no longer write to _root. We're about 95% there with OL4, but there are still a few places left in the code. This will be a priority after we ship 4.0.

And, a belated answer to Raju's question. OpenLaszlo does run within Flash Lite 2. However, at least on the Nokia 6681 we tried, the heap size was only 800k or so, and was quickly exhausted. There is work to be done before OL will run within small, static-sized heaps. However, I understand that newer smart phones have a larger FL2 heap, and some of the newest Nokia phones even have a paged memory model, so there is reason to hope that we'll have a better story there soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>We looked into it, and there&#8217;s one known blocking issue currently. All versions of OpenLaszlo currently write to _root, so they probably (*) cannot be sub-loaded within an existing Flash movie clip. Chumby subloads content, so OpenLaszlo-generated swfs do not currently load within Chumby.</p>
<p>There are two avenues of exploration here. First is to verify whether Chumby is calling lockroot() before subloading content; this not, adding this call *may* make it possible to load OpenLaszlo apps on the Chumby.</p>
<p>The second approach is to modify OpenLaszlo to no longer write to _root. We&#8217;re about 95% there with OL4, but there are still a few places left in the code. This will be a priority after we ship 4.0.</p>
<p>And, a belated answer to Raju&#8217;s question. OpenLaszlo does run within Flash Lite 2. However, at least on the Nokia 6681 we tried, the heap size was only 800k or so, and was quickly exhausted. There is work to be done before OL will run within small, static-sized heaps. However, I understand that newer smart phones have a larger FL2 heap, and some of the newest Nokia phones even have a paged memory model, so there is reason to hope that we&#8217;ll have a better story there soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Greenberg</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2007/01/rich-chumby-application/#comment-20261</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any update on using OL with the Chumby?  I just got a device and I'm lookkng for a  dev environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any update on using OL with the Chumby?  I just got a device and I&#8217;m lookkng for a  dev environment.</p>
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		<title>By: raju</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2007/01/rich-chumby-application/#comment-17480</link>
		<dc:creator>raju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get a lot of feedback on OpenLaszlo from people. And one of the questions constantly coming up right now is: Does an OpenLaszlo app run on Flash Lite 2.x? It would be great to support that version of Flash, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get a lot of feedback on OpenLaszlo from people. And one of the questions constantly coming up right now is: Does an OpenLaszlo app run on Flash Lite 2.x? It would be great to support that version of Flash, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Tomlin</title>
		<link>http://weblog.openlaszlo.org/archives/2007/01/rich-chumby-application/#comment-17131</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Tomlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear you got the chumby okay.  If any ongoing "bafflement," please contact me.  It would be cool if you guys could make this happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you got the chumby okay.  If any ongoing &#8220;bafflement,&#8221; please contact me.  It would be cool if you guys could make this happen.</p>
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